Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio Interview MusicThatJumpedTheShark.com
Who is in the current line up & why? Is the band a husband/wife combo?
Axel Menzer, our dear friend who previously assisted us live on percussions, decided to take a break and focus on his operations with Hekate. So at the end of last year (2009) we included an additional primary guitarist, Ronnie Bäck a.k.a Roses for Innon, along with Fredrik Leijström (Malaise) on Bass guitar. So right now, there are 5 (five) of us. Tomas Pettersson (Vocals & Dictatorship), Rose-Marie Larsen (Vocals & Debauchery) Ronnie Bäck (Backing Vocals, Guitar & Magik), Fredrik Leijström (Bass & Adultrey),Fredrik Bergström (Drums & Misery).
How do you feel about your new material coming out?
I am just as excited as a catholic man in a sex-shop, but now it’s basically a matter of waiting for the advent of October 29th, so that we can pursue with the future. I am very pleased with the outcome of O N A N I back in early 2009. It turned out as I had hoped it would, musically, aesthetically and intimately. Being the most stimulating Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio accomplishment up until now; but nonetheless a very introvert reflection. O N A N I was a passage, dreams needing to cum true in order to progress, and so they did. BUT, Songs 4 Hate & Devotion is the perkiest album I have ever made. It reeks of happiness, extroversion, positivity and excitement. They are the overwhelming emotions that embody this work. It is an extrovert venture for the heart and the soul.
What is your discography so far?
1995 – Reaping the Fallen, The First Harvest – CD, Cold Meat Industry 1997 – The Triumph of Light, And Thy Thirteen Shadows of Love – CD, Cold Meat Industry 1997 – I4I – 7” Picture Disc, Cold Meat Industry, 1998 – Conquest, Love & Self Perseverance – CD, Cold Meat Industry, 2000 – Make Love And War, The Wedlock of Roses – CD, Cold Meat Industry 2001 – Make Love And War, The Wedlock of Equilibrium – CD, Cold Meat Industry 2001 – Make Love And War, The Wedlock of Roses, And Equilibrium – DLP, Cold Meat Industry 2003 – Cocktails, Carnage, Crucifixion And Pornography – CD, Cold Meat Industry2005 – Satyriasis, Somewhere between Equilibrium & Nihilism – CD, Cold Meat Industry, 2006 – Apocalips – CD + Gatefold DLP, Cold Meat Industry 2007 – FOUR – 10” Picture Disc. Cold Meat Industry2009 – O N A N I [Practice makes Perfect] – Digibox & DVD, CD + LP + Picture Disc LP, Cold Meat Industry 2010 – Do Angels never cry and Heaven never fall? CDEP + 12″, Out of Line2010 – Songs 4 Hate & Devotion, CD + LP, Out of Line,
How have the live shows been going?
Our live shows started to improve quite noticeably after the involvement of Ronnie and Fredrik back in October 2009, although they have always been good enough. The only matter is that we haven’t played very much over the last year. But the recent change of label will however reveal if next year will be different, but if not, we do about ten shows per/year.
Is Death In June the biggest influence on the band?
I suppose it is fair that some will always say it is; and back in the beginning there was a certain truth to the claim, but I think it is more diverse than that. I more or less fed on Depeche Mode when I was in my preteens, from 84 – 87. Thereafter, in 87/88 I encountered Laibach, Einstürzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, Klinik, Christian Death & Sisters of Mercy to mention but a few, and which established big parts of my musical preferences altogether. Bands like Coil, Death In June, NON and Current 93 didn’t enter my life until 89/90. So there is truth, but the truth is not that simple. What Douglas managed to do with “Rose Clouds of Holocaust” and “The World that Summer” , was to present me with a new spectrum of presentation. A simplicity and a purity that confirmed the ideas that I embodied. And here I am now.
Have you ever thought of working with outside producers?
The thought has crossed my mind, but I dislike the idea of letting go. Having someone else poking around in my accomplishments, adding his/her personal touch to them; it doesn’t give me the necessary thrills to pursue the notion.
Who are your favorite writers?
Daniil Charms, Ayn Rand, Friedrich Nietszche and God.
Ever think about working with major labels / mainstream distribution?
I guess I already am, more or less. I am now working with Out of Line Music (DE) and they in turn are working with Universal. So if that isn’t mainstream distribution, then I don’t know what is.
How do you feel about your contemporaries/peers in the music world?
What is the biggest difference you see between new underground acts now versus back in the day?
The copy is customarily more refined than the original, so there are plenty of worthwhile bands having, not a new sound, but a refined and alluring image that attracts new listeners, entirely unfamiliar to what is allegedly original. The underground scene has always been based on a certain sense of loyalty, and still is. There is pride and devotion, commitment and support, related to the purchase of any product. But it is changing. The newer listeners don’t embody that sense of loyalty. They are not used to actually buying records of any sort. The electronic audio file is all that exists. A booklet is a rare commodity. And the “originals” are still stuck in the past, believing that they will be able to preserve their former greatness by refusing to yield to the electronic society. But which is incorrect and detrimental assumption, which will lead them straight to their graves. Letting the new bands, the copies, assume their places as rulers of this new formed market in cyber space.
What are some other bands you would like to work with?
Are you happy with your recordings after your done with them?
I am happy and excited about all my releases, especially up to the point when they are finally out, then I rarely listen to them ever again. But the basic principle is that I would never release anything that didn’t appeal to me, past, present and future.
How about religion?
Religion is and always has been an obstructing factor that inhibits human progression. It doesn’t matter if we refer to it as Christianity, Judaism, or Islam; they all impede mankind’s quest for contentment. Enforcing dogma and guilt; offering premeditated answers subjected to regulations and prohibitions in scriptures of divine descent. The worst imaginable scenario for any religion or political conviction would be a content human being; at ease with his or her existence. A human being finding meaning in life itself, and being able to satisfy his or her needs through living, fulfilling dreams and harvesting life as intended. What if all of us felt like that, feeling contentment and gratification solely from living? Maybe then evolution would stop altogether and the New Jerusalem would arise? And what if sex never pleased anyone, what if we only felt pleasure without gratification, then we would never stop, just fucking continuously? Our existence is a quest for meaning and answers. And it is consequently easy to complete the equation of why religion and politics are able to make new way and constantly find new recruits and appropriate disciples among the ranks of men. They offer the whole package, all you have to do is submit, and there won’t be any more questions, just answers, meaning and the reward of salvation and inheriting the earth. We will always evolve, one way or another, with or without religion and politics. We rise and we fall, that is the toll of time. But of course religion, throughout the ages and the conducts of men, has prevented us from accepting ourselves and our intrinsic natures, as creatures, appeased by egoism, wealth and procreation. Religion has inhibited sexual enlightenment, spiritual gratification, and prevented women in particular from seizing their rightful place in existence. Why we ask, because this IS modern religion; a patriarchate of fear.
How would sexuality be better dealt with in society?
Sex would be better dealt with through embracing and fully and accepting our consensual dreams, needs and desires. We all surrender to the visions of our inner realms and masturbate, but no one admits doing it. Why? I believe sexuality defines who we are; we speak of it, we look for it, we long for it, we sense it, we dream it, and so on. Sex is the answer, but what is the question? Even bad sex is still sex. Sex causes reactions. It’s a universal denominator. Everyone has a relation to it, and everyone has an opinion about it. Nudity, penises, vaginas and sex have always been portrayed throughout history. Female bodies are and always have been the greatest subjects of every working artist. The only matter to define is the border between what is tasteful and what is not. And beauty itself, is in the eye of the beholder. The boundaries of right and wrong have expanded, become perverted and obscured over time. What we see today on MTV and other contemporary media, through music videos, commercials, advertisements and so on, is probably nothing in comparison to what WILL be broadcasted and transmitted in a few years to make people raise their eyebrows and become somewhat interested while flipping through the channels. Scrutinize the sexual explicitness of contemporary artists broadcasted on television today, fashion advertisements, TV commercials on prime time television; the aesthetic concept they use, the symbolism they adopt and the imagery they seek to reflect. It is entirely sexual for the sake that sex sells. Shampoo commercials sell masturbation, not shampoo. Ice cream commercials sell fellatio not ice cream. Madonna sells sex, not music. I adore the act and image of masturbation; male as well as female. And by accepting ourselves as sexual beings, defined by our own hereditary needs and intrinsic desires, we cause mind and body to be united in perfect harmony; bringing about the last refuge. But all this comes down to the very basics of mankind. And consequently, the understanding of ourselves and the expansion of the mind, is only for a few. We live in a superficial world that uses EVERY conceivable stimulus to overcome the apathy of everyday life, and sex is the most common commodity.
If you do have an mp3 player – what’s in it?
Indeed I do, and what’s in it? A mixture of things I would say. Some music and some movies; Leonard Cohen, Kent, Combichrist, Mazzy Star, Spiritual Front, Anna Ternheim, Sophie Zelmani, Andrew Blake, Tanya Hyde, to mention but a selection.
Does mainstream music really have any connection at all with underground music?
Of course; everyone wants to be loved, recognized and possibly successful. The only difference is that the mainstream admits to it.
What are your live shows like for those uninitiated?
Our live appearances consist of a lot of passion. And sometimes even a physical catalyst, to manifest the idea we harness. But do not expect anything, and you won’t be disappointed.
What are 5 bands you have voted for as having become Music That Jumped The Shark?